A stern condemnation of men who proclaim that they are not having sex with chickens

Noted writer/musician/manospherian Theodore Beale wrote:

The very act of the self-identification as a Man Not-Reading a Book or a Man Not Having Sex with Chickens is an indication that everything is not in psychological good order.

http://alphagameplan.blogspot.tw/2014/08/saving-civilization-is-not-manning-up.html


I can’t believe Beale is writing about sex with chickens in a post titled: Saving civilization is not “manning up”.

If only he knew the kind of adventures that brawny, sweaty men are having …

chickenPenetration

If only he knew the penetration that can be achieved by a chicken…

…well, actually, chickens don’t pierce very well, they’re better at scratching in the dirt, but chickens know more about how to save civilization than Theodore Beale/Vox Day does.  For that matter, chickens know more about manliness, too.


Theodore Beale/Vox Day doesn’t strike me as an individual who is in a good position to sneer at other folks’ neuroses … but, hey, he’s going to sneer, nothing the rest of us say will ever stop him from sneering.

It’s pretty sad when a published semi-professional fiction writer can’t tell the difference between a fact and a value judgement, however.


 

Beale also wrote:

I can’t fault a man who is so psychologically damaged by his experience with the opposite sex that he has been rendered capable of nothing more than retreating into a cave and licking his wounds for the rest of his life. But it is not behavior that merits respect from other men, nor is it of any use to anyone who values the finer aspects of Western civilization and wishes to avoid a collapse into mud hut barbarism.

As for those who claim I am somehow attempting to shame such men, what would be the point of that? It’s a factual observation, nothing more.


Break that down:
1.

I can’t fault a man who is so psychologically damaged by his experience with the opposite sex that he has been rendered capable of nothing more than retreating into a cave and licking his wounds for the rest of his life.

In the first place, Vox is not qualified to judge psychological damage. In the second place, even the people who are more qualified than Vox can only “fault” people by making value judgements, not by observing facts.

But what Beale/Day means to say is that if you are a man and your romantic escapades don’t measure up to Beale/Day’s judgements, then Beale/Day can factually, scientifically prove that you are capable of nothing more than retreat.

2.

But it is not behavior that merits respect from other men, nor is it of any use to anyone who values the finer aspects of Western civilization and wishes to avoid a collapse into mud hut barbarism.

Judgement of whether a behavior merits respect is a value judgement, not a factual observation.

Judgement of whether a behavior is useful is a value judgement heavily flavored with speculation.

Neither of these can be called factual.

What Beale is doing here looks narcissistic to me.  He’s setting himself up as an arbiter of what deserves respect and what does not.

In fact, the rest of us can respect whomever we please, and there is not a darn thing Beale can do to stop us.

Also, I suspect Beale is trying to pull a “heads-I-win-tails-you-lose” maneuver, in which he declares that he sexually and socially superior to men who don’t have sex with women, but also that he is sexually and superior to men who DO have sex with women.  He will probably say that this is because he is so very, very ALPHA MALE.

The magic words are “in YOUR opinion, Theodore.”  Sure, whatever Vox Day says is absolute, Vox Day’s OPINION.  Vox Day is the wisest, sexiest, most charismatic, most accomplished man of past, present, or future … IN VOX DAY’S OPINION.  Vox Day gets to judge who is worthy of respect and who is not worthy … in Vox Day’s opinion.

And if you decide that you value Vox Day’s opinion, I’ll just go my own way, far away from your opinions.  And if your blog links to endorses his blog by permanent linkage, it’s time for me to stop reading your blog.

In fact, I’ll go over to some mud-hut barbarians and trade tips on civil engineering.  I’ll bet barbarians who can build mud huts are better at structural engineering than Vox Day.

3.

As for those who claim I am somehow attempting to shame such men, what would be the point of that? It’s a factual observation, nothing more.

I don’t care whether Vox is or is not trying to shame anyone, but he definitely is making highly subjective value judgements and claiming that they are facts.

Vox can play wargames and write sci-fi novels and preach to his choir, so long as genuinely violent men keep his society running for him. Vox is great so long as he’s disconnected from physical reality and making various noises – techno music, preaching, literary art. I have yet to see him do anything remotely useful in physical reality.

For the moment, Vox lives behind walls guarded by violent men with guns.

If those other violent men were to disappear, maybe Vox would be able to take their place and reign as a tinpot warlord. I doubt it, but I can’t say it’s impossible. However, he has done nothing to suggest that he would have any degree of competence in real life violence, civilization-building, etc.

Vox may say a few things that I agree with, from time to time, but those things are few and far between.

For the most part, he strikes me as a parasitic blowhard.

If my survival ever depends on getting clean drinking water from Vox, or if Vox ever kills a rampaging jihadi who is about to behead me, I’ll go back and note that this post was unjust. But I think I could live a long life and die of old age, without ever seeing Vox do anything actually useful in reality.

I have GOT to stop reading manosphere blogs. They are rotting my brain. Anything would be more edifying. The ingredients on a shampoo bottle … the per-capita GDP of Madagascar … Fred Reed’s columns … ANYTHING would be better than reading Theodore Beale.

 

Beale wants to tell me what indicates good psychological order.

Theodore Beale wrote:

The very act of the self-identification as a Man Not-Reading a Book … is an indication that everything is not in psychological good order.

Here is my self-identification for Beale.  I self-identify as a reader who chooses not to read Beale’s books.  I am a Reading Reading My Own Literary Way, far away from the literary output of Theodore Beale.

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